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Post by Pdono on Aug 23, 2023 20:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by Pdono on Aug 24, 2023 11:56:56 GMT -5
Obviously, Pence and the NJ Fat Boy were instructed to take out Vivek. The legacy RNC/GOP needs to kill the populist movement (Vivek is currently Trump's successor in this populist movement) for the old guard GOP to survive.
This gives us a small glimpse into what the RNC has been doing to Trump behind the scenes for 8 years. Subversive actions, language, and behavior to weaken the conservative populist movement. If Vivek had not been there, this debate shows the voters where the legacy dust coughers (RNC) want to take the party, which is back to the 90's.
The crowd was made up of mainly DC lobbyist and insider types.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 24, 2023 12:31:36 GMT -5
The only two on that stage that I could vote for were, Desantis and Vivek.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 24, 2023 13:21:28 GMT -5
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 24, 2023 16:04:00 GMT -5
As posted in the other thread on the topic, America made a promise to Ukraine and we have to back it up.
As far as the debate goes, Christie and Pence need to go away. They bring nothing to the table.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 24, 2023 19:45:10 GMT -5
As posted in the other thread on the topic, America made a promise to Ukraine and we have to back it up. Westy, the US promised Russia we wouldn't move one inch east of Germany. We lied. We broke our promise. We expanded east of Germany and built bio labs on the Russian border. Plus we expanded NATO East of Germany too. |
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 24, 2023 20:17:53 GMT -5
Westy, the US promised Russia we wouldn't move one inch east of East Germany. We lied. We broke our promise. We expanded east of Germany and built bio labs on the Russian border. Plus we expanded NATO East of Germany too.
We made no such deal with Russia.
We didn't build biolabs in Ukraine.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 24, 2023 20:41:52 GMT -5
"We didn't build biolabs in Ukraine."
Westy, Victoria Nuland acknowledge as much under questioning. RFK knows it too.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 24, 2023 20:51:38 GMT -5
"We made no such deal with Russia."
In 1990, US Secretary of State James Baker made a promise to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand "one inch eastward" in exchange for Soviet cooperation in German reunification.
Listen in at the 3:30 mark.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 24, 2023 20:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 24, 2023 21:12:58 GMT -5
Just so you are aware, the Soviet Union no longer exists.
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 24, 2023 21:17:41 GMT -5
A Ukrainian lab applying for and receiving a grant from the U.S. is not the same thing as the U.S. building biolabs on the Russian border.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 25, 2023 8:40:50 GMT -5
A Ukrainian lab applying for and receiving a grant from the U.S. is not the same thing as the U.S. building biolabs on the Russian border. Black & Veach built the bio labs and we paid for them. Hunter made money off of them too. It's in the emails. |
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Post by Pdono on Aug 25, 2023 8:52:29 GMT -5
A long and well researched Twitter thread on the bio labs.
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 25, 2023 10:48:54 GMT -5
A long and well researched Twitter thread on the bio labs.
Sorry, you lost me at Twitter.
Some of those "sites" are now in areas controlled by Russia. If they would have been U.S. biolabs, Russia would be making sure the world knew. They accused the U.S. of having biolabs but haven't offered up any sort of proof, despite now being in control of those labs.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 25, 2023 15:37:53 GMT -5
A long and well researched Twitter thread on the bio labs. Sorry, you lost me at Twitter. That's the main on ramp to the best independent journalists today. |
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Post by Pdono on Aug 25, 2023 15:45:35 GMT -5
"Some of those "sites" are now in areas controlled by Russia. If they would have been U.S. biolabs, Russia would be making sure the world knew."
As mentioned, Victoria Nuland admits they are there. Do you know who she is?
We don't need Russia to deny or confirm. The US has confirmed their existence.
LOL...she immediately spins it and tries to blame Russia after admitting they exist.
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 25, 2023 18:09:47 GMT -5
Your video did NOTHING to back up what you are saying. Saying that Ukraine had a Biological Research Facility is NOT the same thing as a Bio Weapons lab built by the U.S.
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 25, 2023 18:11:55 GMT -5
Sorry, you lost me at Twitter. That's the main on ramp to the best independent journalists today.
99% garbage, 1% good independent journalism.
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Post by phizzle on Aug 27, 2023 14:41:56 GMT -5
We owe Ukraine NOTHING... We owe the American People EVERYTHING... Offer the innocent Ukrainian people emotional support. Tax payers do NOT need their dollars going to a corrupt foreign government while depleting our own munition supply and furthering ourselves in debt... Where is the paper trail of how every dollar they've gotten from us was spent? And where is everything they spent it on currently? Accountability in these wars is a joke!
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 28, 2023 5:07:21 GMT -5
We owe Ukraine NOTHING... What kind of message does it send to the world if the U.S. no longer lives up to their agreements ??
Our deal with Ukraine was this EXACT scenario. We thought it would never happen because we didn't believe Russia would actually invade Ukraine. Ukraine did believe it. They agreed to give up their nukes ONLY if we agreed to defend them if Russia ever attacked.
If Russia wins, they will regroup and when there is another weak U.S. President they will invade someone else.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 28, 2023 21:58:41 GMT -5
What kind of message does it send to the world if the U.S. no longer lives up to their agreements ?
Westy, why do you think the Dems impeached Trump over a phone call to Zelensky?
Why do you think Biden bragged about getting Shokin fired from the Burisma investigation?
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Post by Pdono on Aug 29, 2023 12:25:07 GMT -5
Why on earth would we be sending 300 billion to Ukraine and risking WWIII to protect the Biden crime family and also the corrupted GOP never Trumpers.
And remember, one of the Never Trumpers from the previous version of this board, loved to ridicule Rudy Giuliani. Rudy has been on top of this Ukraine corruption for 4+ years. Its a hard pill for Never Trumpers to swallow.
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Post by Pdono on Aug 29, 2023 12:28:12 GMT -5
MTG is correct. There is a wide umbrella of corrupted and connected family members of American politicians. The roots spread wide and deep.
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Post by westcoastlionsfan on Aug 29, 2023 17:24:32 GMT -5
Westy, why do you think the Dems impeached Trump over a phone call to Zelensky? Why do you think Biden bragged about getting Shokin fired from the Burisma investigation? Impeached Trump because they knew Biden did the same thing.
Biden bragged because he's stupid.
You keep completely ignoring the agreement the U.S. signed with Ukraine to defend them against Russia.
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Post by phizzle on Aug 29, 2023 21:38:44 GMT -5
We owe Ukraine NOTHING... What kind of message does it send to the world if the U.S. no longer lives up to their agreements ??
Our deal with Ukraine was this EXACT scenario. We thought it would never happen because we didn't believe Russia would actually invade Ukraine. Ukraine did believe it. They agreed to give up their nukes ONLY if we agreed to defend them if Russia ever attacked.
If Russia wins, they will regroup and when there is another weak U.S. President they will invade someone else.
I don't think the agreement included massive corruption across the board? Hard to back that. |
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Post by Pdono on Aug 29, 2023 22:18:12 GMT -5
"You keep completely ignoring the agreement the U.S. signed with Ukraine to defend them against Russia."What was the name of that agreement and what year was that presented/signed? Because, you do know, the US displaced the existing Ukraine govt leaders and we placed our appointed puppets in there, right? That was during Obama's second term. This was more magic performed by Nuland. Zelenski ran on peace with Russia and then after winning, did a complete about face. The Azov Nazi's within Ukraine started killing ethnic Russians. From 2014. Nuland is orchestrating who can work and manage the Ukrainian govt. Nuland is a pro war with Russia, dirt bag. www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phonecall-leaked-video
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Post by Pdono on Sept 28, 2023 23:45:39 GMT -5
“I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a b*****. He got fired.”
-Vice President Quid Pro Joe Biden
at the Council on Foreign Relations (2018)
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